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It's Not About the Money: In Search of Grounded Fundraising
For us, ministry fundraising is the overflow of a deep sense of purpose. In “It’s Not About the Money”, we look past formulas, and explore both the nuance and the big picture of the fundraising journey. It’s not about tips, tricks, or clever phrasing. It’s about being grounded. Each episode focuses on an aspect of real life as a support-seeker. We hold space for both practice and theory. Join us as we explore the truth that, while the funding is essential, it’s not about the money.
Episodes
75 episodes
44. From 'Never' to Now: Danny and Stephanie's Fundraising Journey
"We said we'd never fundraise—never. But God had other plans." "The conversations about money were some of the hardest, but they also made us stronger." In this episode of THANKS...
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Season 4
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Episode 43
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1:01:43
43.5 RECAP of Preparing for Fundraising Success
"Fundraising isn’t just a necessary evil. It’s the point where we’re drawn deeper into the body of Christ and into intentional, transformational conversations.""The church needs you as much as the people you're min...
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43. Coach Aaron Gonyou on Preparing for Fundraising Success
"God could drop the money in your lap, but instead, He takes you through a process that humbles you, grows your faith, and challenges you to see ministry as a team sport—not an individual one.""Support raising is counter-cultural, bu...
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Season 4
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Episode 43
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53:50
42.5 (RECAP) Building a Support Base That Lasts: Lessons from 25 Years on the Field with Kenton K.
“There is no scarcity in heaven. Never has been, never will be. And there should be no scarcity in our thinking as we move through ministry.”“Don’t let your only point of contact be an appeal for money. Let your points of cont...
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Season 4
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47:12
42. Mary Valloni on Building Trust in an age of Skepticism
"Trust isn’t built overnight—it’s built in the little, consistent moments where we show up authentically.""When you go in for a transaction instead of a relationship, it feels dirty. But fundraising isn’t about money—it’s about partn...
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Season 4
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Episode 42
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1:13:00
41. Season 3 in Review
WOW, what a season. We had fantastic stand alone conversations about church partnerships, domestic fundraising, spiritual health, soul care, and so much more. Heather was joined by special co-host Jenn Smyth for a six part mini-series on fundra...
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Season 3
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Episode 41
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51:54
40. Dr. Will Smallwood on 1000 Days Transformed Campaign
In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy sit down with Dr. Will Smallwood from Cedarville University. Dr. Smallwood shares the incredible journey of Cedarville's 1000 Days Transformed campaign, which has raised over $158....
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Season 3
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Episode 40
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1:05:21
39. (Mini Series EP 6) Beth Smith on Listening and Learning
Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they conclude their mini-series on the unique considerations of support raising in ethnically diverse communities. In this episode, they are joined by Beth Smith, interim MPD director with BSM in Texas. Beth sha...
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Season 3
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Episode 39
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48:17
38. (Mini Series EP 5) Jeremiah and Maysa Vaught
In this fifth episode of the mini-series, Heather and Jenn are excited to welcome Jeremiah Vaught, who, along with his wife Maysa, has been deeply involved in ministry and church planting in Chicago. Jeremiah shares his journey from the initial...
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Season 3
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Episode 38
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34:47
37. (Mini Series EP4) Dennis and Evangeline Chow
Join Heather and special co-host Jenn as they continue their mini-series focused on fundraising considerations from ethnically diverse backgrounds. In this episode, they are thrilled to speak with Dennis and Evangeline Chow, who are currently s...
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Season 3
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Episode 37
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59:06
36. (Mini Series EP 3) Chay'vion Carter
Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they continue their mini-series on fundraising in ethnically diverse communities with special guest Chay'vion Carter. Chay'vion, who has been working with Campus Outreach at the University of North Texas since 2...
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Season 3
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Episode 36
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47:46
35. (Mini Series EP 2) Beca Acuna
Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they dive into the unique challenges and opportunities of support raising in ethnically diverse communities with special guest Becca Acuna. Becca, who has been working with Texas BSM in San Antonio for the past ...
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Season 3
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Episode 35
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45:40
34. (Mini Series EP 1) Jenn Smyth
Join Heather and her new co-host, Jen Smith, as they kick off a mini-series focusing on support raising in ethnically diverse communities. Jen shares her unique journey from high school fundraisers to long-term missions in China, and the cultur...
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Season 3
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Episode 34
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41:39
33. (Mini Series KICK OFF) The Samuel family: Support Raising in Ethnically Diverse Communities
Join Heather and Andy as they kick off a new mini-series focusing on support raising in ethnically diverse communities with a compelling conversation featuring Brandon and Cat Samuel from Wycliffe Bible Translators. They delve into the Bridge P...
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Season 3
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Episode 33
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1:02:22
32.5 RECAP with Bo and Jess Bissell
Heather and Andy are joined in the RECAP by Jess and Bo Bissell, support raising coaches from Pioneers. Jess and Bo share their unique journey from missionaries in Japan to coaching new and seasoned workers in partnership development. They open...
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Season 3
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Episode 32
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49:58
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32. Callie Davis on Spiritually Healthy Fundraising
In this episode, Heather and Andy are joined by Callie Davis from the Via Generosity team to delve into the crucial aspect of spiritual health in support-based ministry. Callie shares her journey from growing up in a support-raising family to h...
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Season 3
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Episode 32
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49:58
31.5 RECAP with Dr. Mandy
In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy are joined by Dr. Mandy, a newly minted Doctor of Education in Organizational Change and Leadership from the University of Southern California. Together, they recap the insightful ...
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Season 3
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Episode 31
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42:54
31. Pastor Josh Lindstrom on Endurance in Fundraising
In this episode, Heather and Andy welcome back Pastor Josh Lindstrom, teaching pastor at Woodman Valley Chapel, to discuss the critical theme of endurance in fundraising. Pastor Josh shares insights from his own ministry and the biblical story ...
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Season 3
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Episode 31
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51:12
30.5 RECAP with Danielle Nelson
In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy are joined by Danielle Nelson, a seasoned project manager with extensive experience in mobilizing and coaching people in support-based work. Together, they recap the enlightening c...
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Season 3
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Episode 30
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45:57
30. Short Term Panel on all things Short Term Fundraising
In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Andy welcomes special guest co-host Sarah Macy, who steps in for Heather. Together, they delve into the intricacies of short-term fundraising with guests Brynn Holtmeyer and Christine Campanella. B...
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Season 3
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Episode 30
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40:46
29.5 RECAP with Bernie Anderson
In this episode, we recap our insightful conversation with Amy Young, founder of Global Trellis. To help us unpack the profound topics discussed, we are joined by Bernie Anderson from Growability. Bernie brings his extensive experience in busin...
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Season 3
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Episode 29
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39:58
29. Amy Young on Your Humanity in Fundraising
In this episode, Heather and Andy dive into a profound discussion with Amy Young, founder of Global Trellis and co-founder of Velvet Ashes. Amy shares her extensive experience in support-based ministry, spanning nearly three decades, and her in...
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Season 3
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Episode 29
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56:20
28.5 RECAP with Amy Young
We are joined by Amy Young of Global Trellis as we recap the Halligan episode and talk about the multifaceted reality of transition and disruption.
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Season 3
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Episode 28
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32:27
28. The Halligans on Facing the Unexpected
When life "throws a curveball," how do we navigate the unexpected challenges that shake the foundation of our plans and partnerships? In this episode, we explore the profound impact of life's unforeseen events on support-based ministry. Join us...
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Season 3
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Episode 28
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